Who is a Drug Addict??

My reply to what OldGoat had to say:

Oh no....not chocolate!!!!

<snipped> for obvious reasons :-)

Too much of anything, even a good thing, can end up being an addiction and
very bad news.


--

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave
with the intention of arriving safely in an
attractive and well preserved body, but
rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one
hand, Margarita in the other, body thoroughly
used up, totally worn out and screaming
'WOO HOO what a ride'!"
-- unknown--

On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 01:04:36 -0500, JMW
<jmwilliams@enforcergraphics.f2s.com> wrote:

>"David Cohen" <sammiesdad@gmail.com> wrote:
>>"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote
>>> "Charles" <jrh@msn.com> wrote
>>>> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>"Charles" <jrh@msn.com> wrote
>>>>>> "Rob Schuh" <noone222@hardbopdrums.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>PLONK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uh oh; the repercussions of that savage reprisal will reverberate
>>>>>> around Usenet to a long, long time...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...like who really gives a shit?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The dreaded "killfiles" are dopey enough, but to announce that you
>>>>>> feel there is a need to resort to them as some sort of vengeful
>>>>>> retribution, is bordering on the moronic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH! ;'o)
>>>>>
>>>>>PLONK!!!!
>>>>>
>>>> If you don't stop this conduct I may find it necessary to threaten to
>>>> "killfile" you, you wretched plonker you!
>>>>
>>>> You have been warned...
>>>
>>> I know I have you killfiled now Charles, but I was sneaking a look to see
>>> your reaction - what;s the point of the killfile if you don't publicly
>>> announce it? Well as Lee used to say "back in the sin box for you!"
>>
>>My killfile has gotten too large again.
>>
>>Maybe I could just killfile myself?
>
>Could you send the International Zionist Cabal hit squad to PaW's
>place?

Are you going to threaten to beat up PaW, using your extensive martial
arts skills, and have it video-taped like you threatened Curt - and
then chickened out when Curt took you up on it?!!

"Don Iris" <don_iris_1973@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:AL2hj.49277$N67.15915@bignews5.bellsouth.net. ..
> "Rob Schuh" <> Fuck off troll.
>>
> POST SOME PHOTOS COWARD. What do you really look like coward??
>
>


Post your name cunt.

http://www.rustyiron.net/rschuh.htm



--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

"Kenny" <foryou@futurewebhost.com> wrote in message
news:20080109041306.AA5304E4A8@outpost.zedz.net...
> On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, trisha f <plfreitag@centurytel.net> wrote:
>>addicts are looking to get high
>>
>>people are not addicted if they need the medication for relief of pain
>
> You are in denial.
>
>
Really? Well with a comment like that, it's very evident that you
don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. I hope you never
have to endure the type(s) of pain that those of us with Chronic
Pain Syndrome have to on a daily basis. I'd give anything to be
able to walk for 30mins without wanting to cry towards the end
because I hurt so badly, or go shopping with my daughter, to be
able to go to an amusement park and enjoy myself without having
to make sure I've taken enough pain meds so that I'm able to just
walk out of the place. pfft! enough, your kind truely isn't worth it.

out!

On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, "rk" <rkhaha@gotcha.com> wrote:
>"Kenny" <foryou@futurewebhost.com> wrote in message
>news:20080109041306.AA5304E4A8@outpost.zedz.net.. .
>>On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, trisha f <plfreitag@centurytel.net> wrote:
>>>addicts are looking to get high
>>>
>>>people are not addicted if they need the medication for relief of pain
>>
>>You are in denial.
>>
>>
>Really? Well with a comment like that, it's very evident that you
>don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. I hope you never
>have to endure the type(s) of pain that those of us with Chronic
>Pain Syndrome have to on a daily basis. I'd give anything to be
>able to walk for 30mins without wanting to cry towards the end
>because I hurt so badly, or go shopping with my daughter, to be
>able to go to an amusement park and enjoy myself without having
>to make sure I've taken enough pain meds so that I'm able to just
>walk out of the place. pfft! enough, your kind truely isn't worth it.
>
>out!

Do you also believe that you cannot become addicted to pain medication if
you need it to relieve pain?

"LauraM" <Have you asked her why she doesn't go back to physical therapy?>

She is determined to do everything contrary to whatever her doctor tells her
to do?? I guess she has an F-U attitude about medical advice in spite of the
obvious.

"NWBluePenguin" <> Oh no....not chocolate!!! Too much of anything, even a
good thing, can end up being an addiction and very bad news.
>

Chocolate is probably the most addictive.

"Rob Schuh" <> Post your name cunt. http://www.rustyiron.net/rschuh.htm
>

Those photos are from 1988. You looked great then. Steroids helped you a
lot. What about now???

Post your photos, be a real man.

BTW,

My name is:
Ted Garcia Rodriguez
335 W 43rd Street
Unit 210
NYC, NY

POST YOUR PHOTOS, YOUR NAME, ADDRESS.

"Kenny" <> Do you also believe that you cannot become addicted to pain
medication if you need it to relieve pain?
>

In case you have not noticed, the main reason that this group exists is for
people on pain medications (legit or otherwise) to give each other tips on
which are the best drugs and what to tell the doctor in order to get a
prescription.

For the people who really need it and are not addicts, this is a great
group. For the addicts, this is a very enabling group.

Either way, the best thing to do is let them do as they will and let God
sort it out. I cannot tell an addict via email, and even if someone seems
like an addict, who knows? It is up to the person.

Reminds me of the joke about the zen master who gave the vendor $5 for a hot
dog. After getting the hot dog the zen master waited patiently for his
change and finally asked the vendor "Where is my change?" The vendor
replied: "Change must come from within!"

"LauraM" <Why do you keep changing names anyway? Do you think no one
notices?
BHAHAAAA HAAA!>

In spite of your pretensions to the contrary, you really have nothing of
substance to add and you are just like any other troll on the internet.

BTW, this is your 14th response. Considering that you are the one who was
telling everyone not to respond it is kind of mentally deficient that you
keep responding.

<jennieandchrispeople who need pain meds truly do NEED them, much like a
diabetic NEEDS their insulin. >

I do not think that anyone should have to live in pain. However, there are
some very borderline reasons that some people take pain meds. Like shaky leg
syndrome and a few others that are not so much about pain but about mental
disorders and they are given pain meds and already have a vulnerable
mentality.

The reason that this thread started was over one person who had failed a
drug test and gotten kicked out of their pain clinic because they were
taking ten pills for shaky leg syndrome. Now that is not pain as far as I
know.

"Ted Sheds" <Tedssheds1039s129@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:xY9gj.46841$vt2.23601@bignews8.bellsouth.net. ..
> It seems that some people are addicted to pain medications, some are
> addicted to weight loss pills, and some are addicted to steroids. When do
> these long-term users cross the line from use into addiction?
>
> When are these folks drug addicts? Is the person who uses an
> anti-itch/anti-stress drug for more than a year a drug addict? Is she a
> drug
> addict when it gives her 3-4 weeks of withdrawals when she tries to quit??


Most fatties are Preparation H abusers.


>
> Some people who are in terrible pain must keep raising their drug levels
> and
> using more drugs because they build up a resistance. Are these folks drug
> addicts??
>
> Are bodybuilders who use steroids periodically also drug addicts or just
> drug abusers? It seems many folks self-medicate and often see more than
> one
> doctor in order to get whatever medications they are looking for. Are
> these
> folks drug addicts??
>
> Where do you draw the line?
>
>
>

Fatties are addicted to laxatives.


"Charles" <jrh@msn.com> wrote in message
news:5ve6o3hl8d5eccmovsq0vhro25jeoss6qe@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 20:36:49 -0700, "Rob Schuh"
> <noone222@hardbopdrums.com> wrote:
>
>>"Ted Sheds" <Tedssheds1039s129@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:G4cgj.59578$rc2.15790@bignews1.bellsouth.ne t...
>>> "blinded" <> Screw you and the horse you came in on
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you still having the DTs over your itching medication? What kind of
>>> druggie needs a narcotic to control itching?? Talk about a basket case.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>PLONK
>
> Uh oh; the repercussions of that savage reprisal will reverberate
> around Usenet to a long, long time...
>
> ...like who really gives a shit?
>
> The dreaded "killfiles" are dopey enough, but to announce that you
> feel there is a need to resort to them as some sort of vengeful
> retribution, is bordering on the moronic.
>
> HTH! ;'o)

Don Iris wrote:
>
> <jennieandchrispeople who need pain meds truly do NEED them, much like a
> diabetic NEEDS their insulin. >
>
> I do not think that anyone should have to live in pain. However, there are
> some very borderline reasons that some people take pain meds. Like shaky leg
> syndrome and a few others that are not so much about pain but about mental
> disorders and they are given pain meds and already have a vulnerable
> mentality.
>
> The reason that this thread started was over one person who had failed a
> drug test and gotten kicked out of their pain clinic because they were
> taking ten pills for shaky leg syndrome. Now that is not pain as far as I
> know.


hmmmm - ten pills of what?

i have rls, but i think when you write sls you mean primary orthostatic
tremor?

if so, it does not usually include 'pain' in it's expression, whereas
rls can often have extreme discomfort/pain

so one is left to wonder why they were prescribed in the first place -
t'would appear that there is really more to the saga that has been
described so far.

anticonvulsant medications such as valproic acid (depakote), and
gabapentin (neurontin) are the usual scripts to provide some relief.
studies also give hope with cyanocobalamin (cobalamin - form of B vit.
corrinoids) and pramipexole (mirapex)

levodopa used to be used until taken off of u.s.a. market.

in most cases, rls expresses when at rest and may abate with movement,
while sls expresses when weight bearing and may abate when at rest

"Paul T. Holland" <> in most cases, rls expresses when at rest and may abate
with movement, while sls expresses when weight bearing and may abate when at
rest>>

As I said before, everyone with a necessity for any kind of medication
should get whatever they need. Certainly no one should live in constant
pain.

"Paul T. Holland" <pholland@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
news:4787FB4F.B2ACFEA0@bellatlantic.net...
>
>
> Don Iris wrote:
>>
>> <jennieandchrispeople who need pain meds truly do NEED them, much like a
>> diabetic NEEDS their insulin. >
>>
>> I do not think that anyone should have to live in pain. However, there
>> are
>> some very borderline reasons that some people take pain meds. Like shaky
>> leg
>> syndrome and a few others that are not so much about pain but about
>> mental
>> disorders and they are given pain meds and already have a vulnerable
>> mentality.
>>
>> The reason that this thread started was over one person who had failed a
>> drug test and gotten kicked out of their pain clinic because they were
>> taking ten pills for shaky leg syndrome. Now that is not pain as far as I
>> know.
>
>
> hmmmm - ten pills of what?
>
> i have rls, but i think when you write sls you mean primary orthostatic
> tremor?
>
> if so, it does not usually include 'pain' in it's expression, whereas
> rls can often have extreme discomfort/pain
>
> so one is left to wonder why they were prescribed in the first place -
> t'would appear that there is really more to the saga that has been
> described so far.
>
> anticonvulsant medications such as valproic acid (depakote), and
> gabapentin (neurontin) are the usual scripts to provide some relief.
> studies also give hope with cyanocobalamin (cobalamin - form of B vit.
> corrinoids) and pramipexole (mirapex)
>
> levodopa used to be used until taken off of u.s.a. market.
>
> in most cases, rls expresses when at rest and may abate with movement,
> while sls expresses when weight bearing and may abate when at rest


RLS can be caused by many things, but so far, it is basically idiopathic.
I've had it since 1991. Pain meds work very well and if you don't want to be
impaired at all, many sleep centers are prescribing Methadone for it.


--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

<jennieandchris@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e80a7735-1191-4b1a-bead-e3e90ef49470@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 10, 4:15 am, "Don Iris" <don_iris_1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> <jennieandchrispeople who need pain meds truly do NEED them, much like a
> diabetic NEEDS their insulin. >
>
> I do not think that anyone should have to live in pain. However, there are
> some very borderline reasons that some people take pain meds. Like shaky
> leg
> syndrome and a few others that are not so much about pain but about mental
> disorders and they are given pain meds and already have a vulnerable
> mentality.
>
> The reason that this thread started was over one person who had failed a
> drug test and gotten kicked out of their pain clinic because they were
> taking ten pills for shaky leg syndrome. Now that is not pain as far as I
> know.

Don Iris
That is why I said people who NEED ( that means that they are in pain
not addicted needs) pain medications need their meds like a diabetic
needs their meds. Addicts need their meds to feed their addiction but
they don't need it to control pain.
Jennie


Jennie,
You should ignore trolls like this. He obviously has an agenda and is not
going to be able to see anything other than his myopic view of the world.




--
Robert Schuh
"Everything that elevates an individual above the herd and
intimidates the neighbour is henceforth called evil; and
the fair, modest, submissive and conforming mentality,
the mediocrity of desires attains moral designations and honors"
- Nietzsche

http://www.hardbopdrums.com/

"Rob Schuh" <> You should ignore trolls like this. He obviously has an
agenda and is not going to be able to see anything other than his myopic
view of the world.
>

I do not have any agenda. I am not in law enforcement, health insurance, or
the medical field. I agree that everyone in pain should get their pain meds.

However, you (Rob Shue) have a history of drug abuse that includes
incarceration in a federal prison. Therefore, when you are taking several
medications for shaky leg syndrome, I wonder if you need them all.

Only you know for sure. I hope you are in good health and otherwise fine.
Good luck to you in everything.

In article <20080110013105.3C53D4E542@outpost.zedz.net>,
Kenny <foryou@futurewebhost.com> wrote:

>Do you also believe that you cannot become addicted to pain medication if
>you need it to relieve pain?

You can, with about 1% the probability of addiction from using the
same amount of the same drug without the pain.

Seth
--
99% of the time, he is rude to the people who do in fact deserve
it. -- Will Brink

On Jan 25, 8:02 pm, dker1b...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]

> Start your own online business. Sell ebooks/software. Full reprint
> rights.<snip>

What would it take for you to step on your own throat? I'm kinda busy
here.

--
Curt