Why Are Injury Illness Posts so POPULAR?

Every time someone posts about some kind of injury or illness, there are
about 50 responses in a matter of minutes. Any other topic, like actual
exercise or activity will only get a handful of responses.

WHY? Have all these groups become over-run by the elderly baby-boomers whose
main preoccupation is Geritol and Ben-Gay??? Is that why the main topic on
these fitness groups is ILLNESS and INJURIES??

Isn't there an Illness and Injury usenet group?

On Dec 16, 11:46 am, "Ted Sherman" <tedsherman103...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Every time someone posts about some kind of injury or illness, there are
> about 50 responses in a matter of minutes. Any other topic, like actual
> exercise or activity will only get a handful of responses.

Actually, my complaint has been that there isn't enough talk about
injuries and so forth. Indeed, what's the opposite of health but
injury...thus, to discuss the one means understanding the other. And
insofar as proper form and technique is broached, that's an "actual
exercise topic" right there....

> WHY? Have all these groups become over-run by the elderly baby-boomers whose
> main preoccupation is Geritol and Ben-Gay??? Is that why the main topic on
> these fitness groups is ILLNESS and INJURIES??

It does seem that the fitness groups are mostly read by middle-aged
folks. On the other hand, one could also argue that serious athletes
are the ones who tend to suffer from injuries, and thus most fitness
NG readers are...serious athletes...?

> Isn't there an Illness and Injury usenet group?

Yes, but those are usually catastrophic injuries, major surgery and
the like, and not necessarily sustained through sports or exercise.

Dear Ted,

Perhaps it's because one of the newsgroups you crosspost to is one about
chronic pain, the cause of which is usually an INJURY or ILLNESS. Though I
like to think there is no such thing as a stupid question, you're getting
real close as far as this group goes. ILLNESS and INJURY are what it's
about, friend, and exercise and activity are all things that have been done
through physical therapy, well before a condition has been defined as
chronic. We have all been there and done that, in many cases causing more
harm than good.
While NOBODY'S comments are unwelcome, this is a group about PAIN, the cause
of which is usually ILLNESS and INJURY, and your comments in this case are
out of line here. We aren't here to discuss bench presses and squat thrusts.
You will always be welcome here, as is anyone, but comments like those you
just posted are absurd and even a little insulting. No one from here has
ever jumped in your shit about your off topic posts regarding exercise,
fitness, and other such bullshit that few if any in here found any value in.
Many of us even tried to participate in your posts, when we could find some
little speck of relevance in them.
Now you cross post in to a support group for chronic pain, which can result
from numerous causes, but is usually from INJURIES and ILLNESS, and bitch
about us posting about INJURIES and ILLNESS and being on topic in our own
group? You should look before you leap or at least before you hit send.
Instead of exercising your body, perhaps you need to work on the muscle
lying between your ears, instead. I sense a lack of definition there.
And perhaps ( though it's far from expected, given the tone of your post),
you might consider an apology to ascp and crosspost THAT to all the
newsgroups that you sent yours post to. Perhaps then, all the SICK and
INJURED that seem to disgust you so much, can find a place where they wont
be subject to your scorn, then you can drop this group and never be bothered
by them again.

Lay off the steroids. Try Ben-Gay or Geritol instead--og

--
Be Sure to Check Out the PAYNE HERTZ blog, for people with chronic pain, by
people with chronic pain.
join in at: http://paynehertz.blogspot.com


"Ted Sherman" <tedsherman103983@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JEc9j.23504$N67.15221@bignews5.bellsouth.net. ..
> Every time someone posts about some kind of injury or illness, there are
> about 50 responses in a matter of minutes. Any other topic, like actual
> exercise or activity will only get a handful of responses.
>
> WHY? Have all these groups become over-run by the elderly baby-boomers
> whose
> main preoccupation is Geritol and Ben-Gay??? Is that why the main topic on
> these fitness groups is ILLNESS and INJURIES??
>
> Isn't there an Illness and Injury usenet group?
>
>
>

"OldGoat" <> Perhaps it's because one of the newsgroups you crosspost to is
one about chronic pain, the cause of which is usually an INJURY or
ILLNESS.>>

I see your point. Unfortunately, a lot of the CHRONICS at MFW
(misc.fitness.weights) cross-post to ASCP, which is apparently why there are
so many responses into the MFW group.

You have answered my question about why there are so many responses to pain
issues. Now the answer would be if the CHRONICS at MFW would stop
cross-posting to ASCP.

If they want help with their chronic pain, they should just post here (to
ASCP) and not cross-post to MFW.

As you can see, you answered my question and thus proved that THERE IS NO
STUPID QUESTION!!

Thanks OG!!

On Dec 16, 10:37 am, "OldGoat" <oldgoatm...@ERdocsuckyahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Ted,
>
> Perhaps it's because one of the newsgroups you crosspost to is one about
> chronic pain, the cause of which is usually an INJURY or ILLNESS. Though I
> like to think there is no such thing as a stupid question, you're getting
> real close as far as this group goes. ILLNESS and INJURY are what it's
> about, friend, and exercise and activity are all things that have been done
> through physical therapy, well before a condition has been defined as
> chronic. We have all been there and done that, in many cases causing more
> harm than good.
> While NOBODY'S comments are unwelcome, this is a group about PAIN, the cause
> of which is usually ILLNESS and INJURY, and your comments in this case are
> out of line here. We aren't here to discuss bench presses and squat thrusts.
> You will always be welcome here, as is anyone, but comments like those you
> just posted are absurd and even a little insulting. No one from here has
> ever jumped in your shit about your off topic posts regarding exercise,
> fitness, and other such bullshit that few if any in here found any value in.
> Many of us even tried to participate in your posts, when we could find some
> little speck of relevance in them.
> Now you cross post in to a support group for chronic pain, which can result
> from numerous causes, but is usually from INJURIES and ILLNESS, and bitch
> about us posting about INJURIES and ILLNESS and being on topic in our own
> group? You should look before you leap or at least before you hit send.
> Instead of exercising your body, perhaps you need to work on the muscle
> lying between your ears, instead. I sense a lack of definition there.
> And perhaps ( though it's far from expected, given the tone of your post),
> you might consider an apology to ascp and crosspost THAT to all the
> newsgroups that you sent yours post to. Perhaps then, all the SICK and
> INJURED that seem to disgust you so much, can find a place where they wont
> be subject to your scorn, then you can drop this group and never be bothered
> by them again.
>
> Lay off the steroids. Try Ben-Gay or Geritol instead--og
>
> --
> Be Sure to Check Out the PAYNE HERTZ blog, for people with chronic pain, by
> people with chronic pain.
> join in at:http://paynehertz.blogspot.com
>
> "Ted Sherman" <tedsherman103...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:JEc9j.23504$N67.15221@bignews5.bellsouth.net. ..
>
> > Every time someone posts about some kind of injury or illness, there are
> > about 50 responses in a matter of minutes. Any other topic, like actual
> > exercise or activity will only get a handful of responses.
>
> > WHY? Have all these groups become over-run by the elderly baby-boomers
> > whose
> > main preoccupation is Geritol and Ben-Gay??? Is that why the main topic on
> > these fitness groups is ILLNESS and INJURIES??
>
> > Isn't there an Illness and Injury usenet group?

TY as always, ((((((((og)))))))))!!! You saved my fingers again!!!
Plus, U were nice...I wouldn't have been but today is a BaD day.
sigh...we'll see what tomorrow brings.
I never used to wish this kind of unending pain on anyone but I've
grown cold thru the yrs/ ppl will never Ever understand until it
happens to them. Then they will wish there was a SUPPORT grp like
this!!!
Kindly,
LoriB.o.B.

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 13:52:56 -0500, "Ted Sherman"
<tedsherman103983@yahoo.com> wrote something wonderfully witty:

>"OldGoat" <> Perhaps it's because one of the newsgroups you crosspost to is
>one about chronic pain, the cause of which is usually an INJURY or
>ILLNESS.>>
>
>I see your point. Unfortunately, a lot of the CHRONICS at MFW
>(misc.fitness.weights) cross-post to ASCP, which is apparently why there are
>so many responses into the MFW group.
>
Many of the people who claim to be in "chronic pain" in that forum,
simply need to discontinue they activities they are performing.
However, instead of doing so, they reach out for "relief in a can,
bottle, syringe".
>
>You have answered my question about why there are so many responses to pain
>issues. Now the answer would be if the CHRONICS at MFW would stop
>cross-posting to ASCP.
>
Well in this forum, it is because it is the topic is Chronic Pain.
Sports related injures, while they can become chronic, are more acute
in nature & will heal in time. However, in our current instant
gratification society, proper rehabilitation from an injury is usually
something most people don't want to spend the time on. It is "one" of
the reasons why the condition becomes chronic. They mask the injury
with painkillers, nerve blocks, or other means & continue to function
as if they were not injured.
>
>If they want help with their chronic pain, they should just post here (to
>ASCP) and not cross-post to MFW.
>
Because most aren't looking for help with "Chronic" pain, they are
actually drug seeking.
>
>As you can see, you answered my question and thus proved that THERE IS NO
>STUPID QUESTION!!
>
There are plenty of stupid questions, most of them unasked.
>
>Thanks OG!!
>

"LoriB.o.B." <> I never used to wish this kind of unending pain on anyone
but I've
> grown cold thru the yrs/ ppl will never Ever understand until it
> happens to them. Then they will wish there was a SUPPORT grp like
> this!!!
>

I think your support group is great. I was just wondering why there were
people at MFW cross-posting to you instead of just staying on-topic.

Anyhow, I have lots of pain issues, and now I have a place to discuss them
without cross-posting.

On Dec 16, 11:57 pm, "Ted Sherman" <tedsherman103...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> I think your support group is great. I was just wondering why there were
> people at MFW cross-posting to you instead of just staying on-topic.

Hello, what about "bad back blues" did you think was off-topic for a
newsgroup on chronic pain??

> Anyhow, I have lots of pain issues, and now I have a place to discuss them
> without cross-posting.

And you wouldn't have known about it without me having cross-posted!

On Dec 16, 6:32 pm, The Wolf With the Red Roses <after-dark-
a...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
> Many of the people who claim to be in "chronic pain" in that forum,
> simply need to discontinue they activities they are performing.
> However, instead of doing so, they reach out for "relief in a can,
> bottle, syringe".

Well, I don't use pain-killers or anything, if that's what you mean,
but I would really prefer not to stop lifting (heavy free-weights
regularly). It feels so good! Except for the pain.

Heck, it's a God-given right to be strong and lift lots of weights. I
wish somebody would investigate the nexus where lifting and chronic
pain meets. Unfortunately, the attitude is "if it hurts, don't do it"
-- which begs the question of why it should hurt in the first place.

> Well in this forum, it is because it is the topic is Chronic Pain.
> Sports related injures, while they can become chronic, are more acute
> in nature & will heal in time.

Doesn't seem to be so in my case. My back has improved slightly, in
that I can do 275-lbs. on the squat and deadlift, but has become worse
insofar as I can't even put on socks without quite a bit of effort!

> However, in our current instant
> gratification society, proper rehabilitation from an injury is usually
> something most people don't want to spend the time on.

Heck, I don't even know what that is! The sports doc recommended some
little stretches, the kind of thing you imagine doing with medicine
balls and such. Is that all? I got the feeling he was just running
through his "customer service script."

> It is "one"

Eh? What do you mean by the scary quotes around "one"??

> of
> the reasons why the condition becomes chronic. They mask the injury
> with painkillers, nerve blocks, or other means & continue to function
> as if they were not injured.

Well, I definitely don't take no chemicals. Heck, I don't even drink
coffee!

> Because most aren't looking for help with "Chronic" pain, they are
> actually drug seeking.

That's not me at all! I'm really curious about sports injuries and
chronic pain.

> There are plenty of stupid questions, most of them unasked.

My feelings precisely! It's too bad usenet is full of blow-hards who
think you need a PhD. in something before you venture a post about it.