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05-15-2008, 01:13 PM
| | | The Wisdom in Islam Khalid ibn El Waleed (RA) narrated the following hadith: A Bedouin
came one day to the Prophet (SAW) and said to him, "0, Messenger of
Allah! I've come to ask you a few questions about the affairs of this
Life and the Here After."
-Ask what you wish.
Q: I'd like to be the most learned of men.
A: Fear Allah, and you will be the most learned of men.
Q: I wish to be the richest man in the world.
A: Be contented, and you will be the richest man in the world.
Q: I'd like to be the most just man.
A: Desire for others what you desire for yourself, and you will be the
most just of men.
Q: I want to be the best of men.
A: Do good to others and you will be the best of men.
Q: I wish to be the most favored by Allah.
A: Engage much in Allah's praise, and you will be most favored by Him.
Q: I'd like to complete my faith.
A: If you have good manners you will complete your faith
Q: I wish to be among those who do good.
A: Adore Allah as if you see Him. If you don 't see Him, He seeth you.
In this way you will be among those who do good.
Q: I wish to be obedient to Allah.
A: If you observe Allah's commands you will be obedient.
Q: I'd like to be free from all sins.
A: Bathe yourself from impurities and you will be free from all sins.
Q: I'd like to be raised on the Day of Judgment in the light.
A: Don't wrong yourself or any other creature, and you will be raised
on the Day of Judgment in the light.
Q: I'd like Allah to bestow His mercy on me.
A: If you have mercy on yourself and others, Allah will grant you
mercy on the Day of Judgment.
Q: I'd like my sins to be very few.
A: If you seek the forgiveness Allah as much as you can, your sins
will be very few.
Q: I'd like to be the most honorable man.
A: If you do not complain to any follow creature, you will be the most
honorable of men.
Q: I'd like to be the strongest of men.
A: If you put your trust in Allah, you will be the strongest of men.
Q: I'd like to enlarge my provision.
A: If you keep yourself pure, Allah will enlarge your provision.
Q: I'd like to be loved by Allah and His messenger.
A: If you love what Allah and Him messenger love, you will be among
their beloved ones.
Q: I wish to be safe from Allah's wrath on the Day of Judgment.
A: If you do not loose your temper with any of your fellow creatures,
you will be safe from the wrath of Allah on the Day of Judgment.
Q: I'd like my prayers to be responded.
A: If you avoid forbidden actions, your prayers will he responded.
Q: I'd like Allah not to disgrace me on the Day of Judgment.
A: If you guard your chastity, Allah will not disgrace you on the Day
of Judgment.
Q: I'd like Allah to provide me with a protective covering on the Day
of Judgment.
A: Do not uncover your fellow creatures faults, and Allah will provide
you with a covering protection on the Day of Judgment.
Q: What will save me from sins?
A: Tears, humility and illness.
Q: What are the best deeds in the eyes of Allah?
A: Gentle manners, modesty and patience.
Q: What are the worst evils in the eyes of Allah?
A: Hot temper and miserliness.
Q: What assuages the wrath of Allah in this life and in the Hereafter?
A: Concealed charity and kindness to relatives.
Q: What extinguishes hell's fires on the Day of Judgment?
A: Patience in adversity and misfortunes.
Related by Imam Ibn Hambal
May Allah (SWT) give us the true guidance. Ameen!!! | 
05-15-2008, 01:13 PM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam
"hamada" <hmd.mns@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0f184e9b-425a-49da-8672-7771518fbfd5@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> Khalid ibn El Waleed (RA) narrated the following hadith: A Bedouin
> came one day to the Prophet (SAW) and said to him, "0, Messenger of
> Allah! I've come to ask you a few questions about the affairs of this
> Life and the Here After."
>
> -Ask what you wish.
>
> Q: I'd like to be the most learned of men.
>
> A: Fear Allah, and you will be the most learned of men.
>
> Q: I wish to be the richest man in the world.
>
> A: Be contented, and you will be the richest man in the world.
>
> Q: I'd like to be the most just man.
>
> A: Desire for others what you desire for yourself, and you will be the
> most just of men.
>
> Q: I want to be the best of men.
>
> A: Do good to others and you will be the best of men.
>
> Q: I wish to be the most favored by Allah.
>
> A: Engage much in Allah's praise, and you will be most favored by Him.
>
> Q: I'd like to complete my faith.
>
> A: If you have good manners you will complete your faith
>
> Q: I wish to be among those who do good.
>
> A: Adore Allah as if you see Him. If you don 't see Him, He seeth you.
> In this way you will be among those who do good.
>
> Q: I wish to be obedient to Allah.
>
> A: If you observe Allah's commands you will be obedient.
>
> Q: I'd like to be free from all sins.
>
> A: Bathe yourself from impurities and you will be free from all sins.
>
> Q: I'd like to be raised on the Day of Judgment in the light.
>
> A: Don't wrong yourself or any other creature, and you will be raised
> on the Day of Judgment in the light.
>
> Q: I'd like Allah to bestow His mercy on me.
>
> A: If you have mercy on yourself and others, Allah will grant you
> mercy on the Day of Judgment.
>
> Q: I'd like my sins to be very few.
>
> A: If you seek the forgiveness Allah as much as you can, your sins
> will be very few.
>
> Q: I'd like to be the most honorable man.
>
> A: If you do not complain to any follow creature, you will be the most
> honorable of men.
>
> Q: I'd like to be the strongest of men.
>
> A: If you put your trust in Allah, you will be the strongest of men.
>
> Q: I'd like to enlarge my provision.
>
> A: If you keep yourself pure, Allah will enlarge your provision.
>
> Q: I'd like to be loved by Allah and His messenger.
>
> A: If you love what Allah and Him messenger love, you will be among
> their beloved ones.
>
> Q: I wish to be safe from Allah's wrath on the Day of Judgment.
>
> A: If you do not loose your temper with any of your fellow creatures,
> you will be safe from the wrath of Allah on the Day of Judgment.
>
> Q: I'd like my prayers to be responded.
>
> A: If you avoid forbidden actions, your prayers will he responded.
>
> Q: I'd like Allah not to disgrace me on the Day of Judgment.
>
> A: If you guard your chastity, Allah will not disgrace you on the Day
> of Judgment.
>
> Q: I'd like Allah to provide me with a protective covering on the Day
> of Judgment.
>
> A: Do not uncover your fellow creatures faults, and Allah will provide
> you with a covering protection on the Day of Judgment.
>
> Q: What will save me from sins?
>
> A: Tears, humility and illness.
>
> Q: What are the best deeds in the eyes of Allah?
>
> A: Gentle manners, modesty and patience.
>
> Q: What are the worst evils in the eyes of Allah?
>
> A: Hot temper and miserliness.
>
> Q: What assuages the wrath of Allah in this life and in the Hereafter?
>
> A: Concealed charity and kindness to relatives.
>
> Q: What extinguishes hell's fires on the Day of Judgment?
>
> A: Patience in adversity and misfortunes.
>
> Related by Imam Ibn Hambal
>
> May Allah (SWT) give us the true guidance. Ameen!!!
Hamada, I have a serious question for you - my main interest in Islam is the
72 virgins - I wonder in truth if they really are virgins and if so, why?
If they are not good enough for their fathers and brothers, then they may
not be good enough for me. Thank you for any enlightenment. Allah be
praised. | 
05-15-2008, 05:16 PM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam In article
<0f184e9b-425a-49da-8672-7771518fbfd5@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
hamada <hmd.mns@gmail.com> wrote:
> Q: I'd like to be the most learned of men.
>
> A: Fear Allah, and you will be the most learned of men.
Fear leads to hate. If you are in fear of your god, I pity you.
Mine is the god of love...
No wonder y'all hate everybody that is not Islam!
What a terrible way to live.
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein | 
05-15-2008, 05:16 PM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam In article <482c2f1a$0$17509$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> Hamada, I have a serious question for you - my main interest in Islam is the
> 72 virgins - I wonder in truth if they really are virgins and if so, why?
> If they are not good enough for their fathers and brothers, then they may
> not be good enough for me. Thank you for any enlightenment. Allah be
> praised.
Good one David. ;-)
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein | 
05-15-2008, 09:11 PM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam
"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article
> <0f184e9b-425a-49da-8672-7771518fbfd5@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
> hamada <hmd.mns@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Q: I'd like to be the most learned of men.
>>
>> A: Fear Allah, and you will be the most learned of men.
>
> Fear leads to hate. If you are in fear of your god, I pity you.
> Mine is the god of love...
>
> No wonder y'all hate everybody that is not Islam!
>
> What a terrible way to live.
How true!
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> "Human nature seems to be to control other people
> until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein | 
05-15-2008, 09:11 PM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam
"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <482c2f1a$0$17509$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Hamada, I have a serious question for you - my main interest in Islam is
>> the
>> 72 virgins - I wonder in truth if they really are virgins and if so, why?
>> If they are not good enough for their fathers and brothers, then they may
>> not be good enough for me. Thank you for any enlightenment. Allah be
>> praised.
>
> Good one David. ;-)
> --
Hello Om (Allah be praised!)
> Peace! Om
>
> "Human nature seems to be to control other people
> until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein | 
05-15-2008, 09:11 PM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam
"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news  mpomelet-40F31A.10073915052008@news.giganews.com...
> In article <482c2f1a$0$17509$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Hamada, I have a serious question for you - my main interest in Islam is
>> the
>> 72 virgins - I wonder in truth if they really are virgins and if so, why?
>> If they are not good enough for their fathers and brothers, then they may
>> not be good enough for me. Thank you for any enlightenment. Allah be
>> praised.
>
> Good one David. ;-)
Om, just took my dog to the eye specialist - he has cataracts in one eye and
beginning in the other - he's only 4 years old.
so he is virtually blind in one eye - (not diabetic and he has a pedigree no
cataracts in his family history) - so now I have to monitor his other eye
and at some stage in the near future will have to consider an operation on
one or both eyes. Cost will be $2000 for one eye and $3500 for both eyes if
I have it done at once, Plus all the pain and suffering for the poor little
guy.
Joys of owning a pet!
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> "Human nature seems to be to control other people
> until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein | 
05-16-2008, 04:33 AM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam In article <482c9040$0$17507$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news mpomelet-76E6E5.10070915052008@news.giganews.com...
> > In article
> > <0f184e9b-425a-49da-8672-7771518fbfd5@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
> > hamada <hmd.mns@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Q: I'd like to be the most learned of men.
> >>
> >> A: Fear Allah, and you will be the most learned of men.
> >
> > Fear leads to hate. If you are in fear of your god, I pity you.
> > Mine is the god of love...
> >
> > No wonder y'all hate everybody that is not Islam!
> >
> > What a terrible way to live.
>
> How true!
>
<waves> Hi David!
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein | 
05-16-2008, 04:33 AM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam In article <482c9b3b$0$13944$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news mpomelet-40F31A.10073915052008@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <482c2f1a$0$17509$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
> > "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >> Hamada, I have a serious question for you - my main interest in Islam is
> >> the
> >> 72 virgins - I wonder in truth if they really are virgins and if so, why?
> >> If they are not good enough for their fathers and brothers, then they may
> >> not be good enough for me. Thank you for any enlightenment. Allah be
> >> praised.
> >
> > Good one David. ;-)
>
> Om, just took my dog to the eye specialist - he has cataracts in one eye and
> beginning in the other - he's only 4 years old.
> so he is virtually blind in one eye - (not diabetic and he has a pedigree no
> cataracts in his family history) - so now I have to monitor his other eye
> and at some stage in the near future will have to consider an operation on
> one or both eyes. Cost will be $2000 for one eye and $3500 for both eyes if
> I have it done at once, Plus all the pain and suffering for the poor little
> guy.
> Joys of owning a pet!
>
I'm so sorry David!
Did the vet say what might be causing it in this young of a dog?
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein | 
05-16-2008, 04:33 AM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam
"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <482c9040$0$17507$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news mpomelet-76E6E5.10070915052008@news.giganews.com...
>> > In article
>> > <0f184e9b-425a-49da-8672-7771518fbfd5@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
>> > hamada <hmd.mns@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Q: I'd like to be the most learned of men.
>> >>
>> >> A: Fear Allah, and you will be the most learned of men.
>> >
>> > Fear leads to hate. If you are in fear of your god, I pity you.
>> > Mine is the god of love...
>> >
>> > No wonder y'all hate everybody that is not Islam!
>> >
>> > What a terrible way to live.
>>
>> How true!
>>
>
> <waves> Hi David!
> --
> Peace! Om
Ha! Are you on shift work tonight?
>
> "Human nature seems to be to control other people
> until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein | 
05-16-2008, 04:33 AM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam
"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news  mpomelet-8C9D64.20443715052008@news.giganews.com...
> In article <482c9b3b$0$13944$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news mpomelet-40F31A.10073915052008@news.giganews.com...
>> > In article <482c2f1a$0$17509$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
>> > "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hamada, I have a serious question for you - my main interest in Islam
>> >> is
>> >> the
>> >> 72 virgins - I wonder in truth if they really are virgins and if so,
>> >> why?
>> >> If they are not good enough for their fathers and brothers, then they
>> >> may
>> >> not be good enough for me. Thank you for any enlightenment. Allah be
>> >> praised.
>> >
>> > Good one David. ;-)
>>
>> Om, just took my dog to the eye specialist - he has cataracts in one eye
>> and
>> beginning in the other - he's only 4 years old.
>> so he is virtually blind in one eye - (not diabetic and he has a pedigree
>> no
>> cataracts in his family history) - so now I have to monitor his other eye
>> and at some stage in the near future will have to consider an operation
>> on
>> one or both eyes. Cost will be $2000 for one eye and $3500 for both eyes
>> if
>> I have it done at once, Plus all the pain and suffering for the poor
>> little
>> guy.
>> Joys of owning a pet!
>>
>
> I'm so sorry David!
>
> Did the vet say what might be causing it in this young of a dog?
> --
He said probably some kind of trauma. Or he is carrying some crap gene they
dont know
Will do surgery on one eye anyway - too sad to have a blind dog!
> Peace! Om
>
> "Human nature seems to be to control other people
> until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein | 
05-16-2008, 04:33 AM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam In article <482ce751$0$13945$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news mpomelet-BBEACF.20435015052008@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <482c9040$0$17507$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
> > "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news mpomelet-76E6E5.10070915052008@news.giganews.com...
> >> > In article
> >> > <0f184e9b-425a-49da-8672-7771518fbfd5@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
> >> > hamada <hmd.mns@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Q: I'd like to be the most learned of men.
> >> >>
> >> >> A: Fear Allah, and you will be the most learned of men.
> >> >
> >> > Fear leads to hate. If you are in fear of your god, I pity you.
> >> > Mine is the god of love...
> >> >
> >> > No wonder y'all hate everybody that is not Islam!
> >> >
> >> > What a terrible way to live.
> >>
> >> How true!
> >>
> >
> > <waves> Hi David!
> > --
> > Peace! Om
>
> Ha! Are you on shift work tonight?
Fixin' to shut down here in a minute, hit the shower and head to work.
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein | 
05-16-2008, 04:33 AM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam In article <482ce7c6$0$17505$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news mpomelet-8C9D64.20443715052008@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <482c9b3b$0$13944$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
> > "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news mpomelet-40F31A.10073915052008@news.giganews.com...
> >> > In article <482c2f1a$0$17509$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
> >> > "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hamada, I have a serious question for you - my main interest in Islam
> >> >> is
> >> >> the
> >> >> 72 virgins - I wonder in truth if they really are virgins and if so,
> >> >> why?
> >> >> If they are not good enough for their fathers and brothers, then they
> >> >> may
> >> >> not be good enough for me. Thank you for any enlightenment. Allah be
> >> >> praised.
> >> >
> >> > Good one David. ;-)
> >>
> >> Om, just took my dog to the eye specialist - he has cataracts in one eye
> >> and
> >> beginning in the other - he's only 4 years old.
> >> so he is virtually blind in one eye - (not diabetic and he has a pedigree
> >> no
> >> cataracts in his family history) - so now I have to monitor his other eye
> >> and at some stage in the near future will have to consider an operation
> >> on
> >> one or both eyes. Cost will be $2000 for one eye and $3500 for both eyes
> >> if
> >> I have it done at once, Plus all the pain and suffering for the poor
> >> little
> >> guy.
> >> Joys of owning a pet!
> >>
> >
> > I'm so sorry David!
> >
> > Did the vet say what might be causing it in this young of a dog?
> > --
> He said probably some kind of trauma. Or he is carrying some crap gene they
> dont know
> Will do surgery on one eye anyway - too sad to have a blind dog!
They adapt, but if you have the money, I'd spend it too!
'night.
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein | 
05-16-2008, 04:33 AM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam
"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news  mpomelet-6B748C.21021215052008@news.giganews.com...
> In article <482ce7c6$0$17505$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news mpomelet-8C9D64.20443715052008@news.giganews.com...
>> > In article <482c9b3b$0$13944$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
>> > "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news mpomelet-40F31A.10073915052008@news.giganews.com...
>> >> > In article <482c2f1a$0$17509$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
>> >> > "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hamada, I have a serious question for you - my main interest in
>> >> >> Islam
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> 72 virgins - I wonder in truth if they really are virgins and if
>> >> >> so,
>> >> >> why?
>> >> >> If they are not good enough for their fathers and brothers, then
>> >> >> they
>> >> >> may
>> >> >> not be good enough for me. Thank you for any enlightenment. Allah
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> praised.
>> >> >
>> >> > Good one David. ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Om, just took my dog to the eye specialist - he has cataracts in one
>> >> eye
>> >> and
>> >> beginning in the other - he's only 4 years old.
>> >> so he is virtually blind in one eye - (not diabetic and he has a
>> >> pedigree
>> >> no
>> >> cataracts in his family history) - so now I have to monitor his other
>> >> eye
>> >> and at some stage in the near future will have to consider an
>> >> operation
>> >> on
>> >> one or both eyes. Cost will be $2000 for one eye and $3500 for both
>> >> eyes
>> >> if
>> >> I have it done at once, Plus all the pain and suffering for the poor
>> >> little
>> >> guy.
>> >> Joys of owning a pet!
>> >>
>> >
>> > I'm so sorry David!
>> >
>> > Did the vet say what might be causing it in this young of a dog?
>> > --
>> He said probably some kind of trauma. Or he is carrying some crap gene
>> they
>> dont know
>> Will do surgery on one eye anyway - too sad to have a blind dog!
>
> They adapt, but if you have the money, I'd spend it too!
>
> 'night.
> --
Thanks Mate
> Peace! Om
>
> "Human nature seems to be to control other people
> until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein | 
05-16-2008, 04:33 AM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam
"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message ....
.....> Om, just took my dog to the eye specialist - he has cataracts in one
eye and
> beginning in the other - he's only 4 years old.
> so he is virtually blind in one eye - (not diabetic and he has a pedigree
> no cataracts in his family history) - so now I have to monitor his other
> eye and at some stage in the near future will have to consider an
> operation on one or both eyes. Cost will be $2000 for one eye and $3500
> for both eyes if I have it done at once, Plus all the pain and suffering
> for the poor little guy.
> Joys of owning a pet!
Sorry to hear about your dog. I've spent thousands on my dogs and it's hurt
my bank acct at times, but the return is infinite. Hope your boy gets better
soon. | 
05-16-2008, 04:33 AM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam
"Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:482cf99b$0$20185$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message ....
>
> ....> Om, just took my dog to the eye specialist - he has cataracts in one
> eye and
>> beginning in the other - he's only 4 years old.
>> so he is virtually blind in one eye - (not diabetic and he has a pedigree
>> no cataracts in his family history) - so now I have to monitor his other
>> eye and at some stage in the near future will have to consider an
>> operation on one or both eyes. Cost will be $2000 for one eye and $3500
>> for both eyes if I have it done at once, Plus all the pain and suffering
>> for the poor little guy.
>> Joys of owning a pet!
>
> Sorry to hear about your dog. I've spent thousands on my dogs and it's
> hurt my bank acct at times, but the return is infinite. Hope your boy gets
> better soon.
Appreciate that Zen. Funny how attached you get to these guys. As you say,
spending the money is well rewarded. Thanks | 
05-16-2008, 06:54 PM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam In article <482d09d7$0$17507$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> "Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:482cf99b$0$20185$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> >
> > "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message ....
> >
> > ....> Om, just took my dog to the eye specialist - he has cataracts in one
> > eye and
> >> beginning in the other - he's only 4 years old.
> >> so he is virtually blind in one eye - (not diabetic and he has a pedigree
> >> no cataracts in his family history) - so now I have to monitor his other
> >> eye and at some stage in the near future will have to consider an
> >> operation on one or both eyes. Cost will be $2000 for one eye and $3500
> >> for both eyes if I have it done at once, Plus all the pain and suffering
> >> for the poor little guy.
> >> Joys of owning a pet!
> >
> > Sorry to hear about your dog. I've spent thousands on my dogs and it's
> > hurt my bank acct at times, but the return is infinite. Hope your boy gets
> > better soon.
> Appreciate that Zen. Funny how attached you get to these guys. As you say,
> spending the money is well rewarded. Thanks
If you lock your dog and your wife in the trunk of your car for an hour,
which one will be happy to see you when you let them out? :-)
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein | 
05-16-2008, 06:54 PM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam In article <482cec0f$0$17505$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> > They adapt, but if you have the money, I'd spend it too!
> >
> > 'night.
> > --
>
> Thanks Mate
Cheers... :-)
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein | 
05-16-2008, 09:12 PM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam On May 15, 10:07 am, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <0f184e9b-425a-49da-8672-7771518fb...@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
>
> hamada <hmd....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Q: I'd like to be the most learned of men.
>
> > A: Fear Allah, and you will be the most learned of men.
>
> Fear leads to hate.
>>snip<<
....fear leads to snack foods, snack foods lead to MFW, MFW leads to
the DARK SIDE!"
Why do I hear this in the voice of Yoda-om?
:-) | 
05-16-2008, 09:12 PM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam In article
<b5e262de-771f-434b-8ee0-e663af9352ce@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, The.Sargon@gmail.com wrote:
> On May 15, 10:07 am, Omelet <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <0f184e9b-425a-49da-8672-7771518fb...@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > hamada <hmd....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Q: I'd like to be the most learned of men.
> >
> > > A: Fear Allah, and you will be the most learned of men.
> >
> > Fear leads to hate.
> >>snip<<
> ...fear leads to snack foods, snack foods lead to MFW, MFW leads to
> the DARK SIDE!"
>
> Why do I hear this in the voice of Yoda-om?
>
> :-)
Because Yoda-om is omiscient? ;-)
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein | 
05-16-2008, 09:12 PM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam
"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news  mpomelet-C37211.10125216052008@news.giganews.com...
> In article <482d09d7$0$17507$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> "Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:482cf99b$0$20185$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> >
>> > "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message ....
>> >
>> > ....> Om, just took my dog to the eye specialist - he has cataracts in
>> > one
>> > eye and
>> >> beginning in the other - he's only 4 years old.
>> >> so he is virtually blind in one eye - (not diabetic and he has a
>> >> pedigree
>> >> no cataracts in his family history) - so now I have to monitor his
>> >> other
>> >> eye and at some stage in the near future will have to consider an
>> >> operation on one or both eyes. Cost will be $2000 for one eye and
>> >> $3500
>> >> for both eyes if I have it done at once, Plus all the pain and
>> >> suffering
>> >> for the poor little guy.
>> >> Joys of owning a pet!
>> >
>> > Sorry to hear about your dog. I've spent thousands on my dogs and it's
>> > hurt my bank acct at times, but the return is infinite. Hope your boy
>> > gets
>> > better soon.
>> Appreciate that Zen. Funny how attached you get to these guys. As you
>> say,
>> spending the money is well rewarded. Thanks
>
> If you lock your dog and your wife in the trunk of your car for an hour,
> which one will be happy to see you when you let them out? :-)
I think my wife - mainly because my dog would be dead. (my wife can't go an
hour without eatng something) -
(I am embarassed to admit but when I go away for a day or two on my own, I
miss my dog far more than my wife !!)
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> "Human nature seems to be to control other people
> until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein | 
05-16-2008, 09:12 PM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam Dnia 2008-05-15 David napisał(a):
>
> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news mpomelet-40F31A.10073915052008@news.giganews.com...
>>
>> Good one David. ;-)
>
> Om, just took my dog to the eye specialist - he has cataracts in one eye and
> beginning in the other - he's only 4 years old.
> so he is virtually blind in one eye - (not diabetic and he has a pedigree
Here is your problem, a pedigree. Dogs with a pedigree are not healthy
in general, and they make their masters stupid too. Burn this thing and
your dog may get better. I know a lot of dogs without a pedigree - all
healthy. I know one dog with a pedigree and he has a cancer. Pedigrees
suck majorly, I'm telling you.
[...]
--
Andrzej Rosa 1127R | 
05-16-2008, 10:55 PM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam On Sat, 17 May 2008 06:08:41 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
>
>"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news mpomelet-C37211.10125216052008@news.giganews.com...
>> In article <482d09d7$0$17507$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
>> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> "Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:482cf99b$0$20185$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> >
>>> > "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message ....
>>> >
>>> > ....> Om, just took my dog to the eye specialist - he has cataracts in
>>> > one
>>> > eye and
>>> >> beginning in the other - he's only 4 years old.
>>> >> so he is virtually blind in one eye - (not diabetic and he has a
>>> >> pedigree
>>> >> no cataracts in his family history) - so now I have to monitor his
>>> >> other
>>> >> eye and at some stage in the near future will have to consider an
>>> >> operation on one or both eyes. Cost will be $2000 for one eye and
>>> >> $3500
>>> >> for both eyes if I have it done at once, Plus all the pain and
>>> >> suffering
>>> >> for the poor little guy.
>>> >> Joys of owning a pet!
>>> >
>>> > Sorry to hear about your dog. I've spent thousands on my dogs and it's
>>> > hurt my bank acct at times, but the return is infinite. Hope your boy
>>> > gets
>>> > better soon.
>>> Appreciate that Zen. Funny how attached you get to these guys. As you
>>> say,
>>> spending the money is well rewarded. Thanks
>>
>> If you lock your dog and your wife in the trunk of your car for an hour,
>> which one will be happy to see you when you let them out? :-)
>
>I think my wife - mainly because my dog would be dead. (my wife can't go an
>hour without eatng something) -
>(I am embarassed to admit but when I go away for a day or two on my own, I
>miss my dog far more than my wife !!)
>
That would be evident given that your wife has not gone away, is still
at home with the dog, and therefore has no reason to miss the dog more
than you do!!
Have a great weekend Oz - you know that I intend to! ;o)
TFIF! | 
05-17-2008, 02:05 AM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam In article <482de9b0$0$30465$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news mpomelet-C37211.10125216052008@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <482d09d7$0$17507$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
> > "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >> "Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:482cf99b$0$20185$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> >> >
> >> > "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message ....
> >> >
> >> > ....> Om, just took my dog to the eye specialist - he has cataracts in
> >> > one
> >> > eye and
> >> >> beginning in the other - he's only 4 years old.
> >> >> so he is virtually blind in one eye - (not diabetic and he has a
> >> >> pedigree
> >> >> no cataracts in his family history) - so now I have to monitor his
> >> >> other
> >> >> eye and at some stage in the near future will have to consider an
> >> >> operation on one or both eyes. Cost will be $2000 for one eye and
> >> >> $3500
> >> >> for both eyes if I have it done at once, Plus all the pain and
> >> >> suffering
> >> >> for the poor little guy.
> >> >> Joys of owning a pet!
> >> >
> >> > Sorry to hear about your dog. I've spent thousands on my dogs and it's
> >> > hurt my bank acct at times, but the return is infinite. Hope your boy
> >> > gets
> >> > better soon.
> >> Appreciate that Zen. Funny how attached you get to these guys. As you
> >> say,
> >> spending the money is well rewarded. Thanks
> >
> > If you lock your dog and your wife in the trunk of your car for an hour,
> > which one will be happy to see you when you let them out? :-)
>
> I think my wife - mainly because my dog would be dead. (my wife can't go an
> hour without eatng something) -
> (I am embarassed to admit but when I go away for a day or two on my own, I
> miss my dog far more than my wife !!)
>
Hope your wife will not read this. <g>
--
Peace! Om
"Human nature seems to be to control other people
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein | 
05-17-2008, 02:09 PM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam
"Andrzej Rosa" <bakters@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b181g5-8ls.ln1@bakters.bandit.home...
> Dnia 2008-05-15 David napisał(a):
>>
>> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news mpomelet-40F31A.10073915052008@news.giganews.com...
>>>
>>> Good one David. ;-)
>>
>> Om, just took my dog to the eye specialist - he has cataracts in one eye
>> and
>> beginning in the other - he's only 4 years old.
>> so he is virtually blind in one eye - (not diabetic and he has a pedigree
>
> Here is your problem, a pedigree. Dogs with a pedigree are not healthy
> in general, and they make their masters stupid too. Burn this thing and
> your dog may get better. I know a lot of dogs without a pedigree - all
> healthy. I know one dog with a pedigree and he has a cancer. Pedigrees
> suck majorly, I'm telling you.
All a pedigree means to me is the lineage is known i,e the parents and
grandparents - so at least that is an advantage if you want to know if the
dog has a genetic issue
>
> [...]
> --
> Andrzej Rosa 1127R | 
05-17-2008, 02:09 PM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam
"Charles" <jrh@msn.com> wrote in message
news:do3s24hgq9kkpss09v7sfcr47g2feeabj8@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 17 May 2008 06:08:41 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news mpomelet-C37211.10125216052008@news.giganews.com...
>>> In article <482d09d7$0$17507$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
>>> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:482cf99b$0$20185$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>> >
>>>> > "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message ....
>>>> >
>>>> > ....> Om, just took my dog to the eye specialist - he has cataracts
>>>> > in
>>>> > one
>>>> > eye and
>>>> >> beginning in the other - he's only 4 years old.
>>>> >> so he is virtually blind in one eye - (not diabetic and he has a
>>>> >> pedigree
>>>> >> no cataracts in his family history) - so now I have to monitor his
>>>> >> other
>>>> >> eye and at some stage in the near future will have to consider an
>>>> >> operation on one or both eyes. Cost will be $2000 for one eye and
>>>> >> $3500
>>>> >> for both eyes if I have it done at once, Plus all the pain and
>>>> >> suffering
>>>> >> for the poor little guy.
>>>> >> Joys of owning a pet!
>>>> >
>>>> > Sorry to hear about your dog. I've spent thousands on my dogs and
>>>> > it's
>>>> > hurt my bank acct at times, but the return is infinite. Hope your boy
>>>> > gets
>>>> > better soon.
>>>> Appreciate that Zen. Funny how attached you get to these guys. As you
>>>> say,
>>>> spending the money is well rewarded. Thanks
>>>
>>> If you lock your dog and your wife in the trunk of your car for an hour,
>>> which one will be happy to see you when you let them out? :-)
>>
>>I think my wife - mainly because my dog would be dead. (my wife can't go
>>an
>>hour without eatng something) -
>>(I am embarassed to admit but when I go away for a day or two on my own, I
>>miss my dog far more than my wife !!)
>>
>
> That would be evident given that your wife has not gone away, is still
> at home with the dog, and therefore has no reason to miss the dog more
> than you do!!
You are confusing me again!
Where the fuck are ya these days??
>
> Have a great weekend Oz - you know that I intend to! ;o)
Yes - have my feet up with a glass of something most of the time - got
slaves to mow the lawn and wash the car
>
> TFIF! | 
05-17-2008, 02:09 PM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam
"Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news  mpomelet-26D417.20300216052008@news.giganews.com...
> In article <482de9b0$0$30465$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news mpomelet-C37211.10125216052008@news.giganews.com...
>> > In article <482d09d7$0$17507$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
>> > "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:482cf99b$0$20185$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message ....
>> >> >
>> >> > ....> Om, just took my dog to the eye specialist - he has cataracts
>> >> > in
>> >> > one
>> >> > eye and
>> >> >> beginning in the other - he's only 4 years old.
>> >> >> so he is virtually blind in one eye - (not diabetic and he has a
>> >> >> pedigree
>> >> >> no cataracts in his family history) - so now I have to monitor his
>> >> >> other
>> >> >> eye and at some stage in the near future will have to consider an
>> >> >> operation on one or both eyes. Cost will be $2000 for one eye and
>> >> >> $3500
>> >> >> for both eyes if I have it done at once, Plus all the pain and
>> >> >> suffering
>> >> >> for the poor little guy.
>> >> >> Joys of owning a pet!
>> >> >
>> >> > Sorry to hear about your dog. I've spent thousands on my dogs and
>> >> > it's
>> >> > hurt my bank acct at times, but the return is infinite. Hope your
>> >> > boy
>> >> > gets
>> >> > better soon.
>> >> Appreciate that Zen. Funny how attached you get to these guys. As you
>> >> say,
>> >> spending the money is well rewarded. Thanks
>> >
>> > If you lock your dog and your wife in the trunk of your car for an
>> > hour,
>> > which one will be happy to see you when you let them out? :-)
>>
>> I think my wife - mainly because my dog would be dead. (my wife can't go
>> an
>> hour without eatng something) -
>> (I am embarassed to admit but when I go away for a day or two on my own,
>> I
>> miss my dog far more than my wife !!)
>>
>
> Hope your wife will not read this. <g>
I just tell her I got mixed up with the wrong crowd. She will understand
(wishful thinking.. . . .)
> --
> Peace! Om
>
> "Human nature seems to be to control other people
> until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein | 
05-17-2008, 02:09 PM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam David wrote:
> "Charles" <jrh@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:do3s24hgq9kkpss09v7sfcr47g2feeabj8@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 17 May 2008 06:08:41 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Omelet" <ompomelet@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news mpomelet-C37211.10125216052008@news.giganews.com...
>>>> In article <482d09d7$0$17507$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> ,
>>>> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Zen Cohen" <aturny@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:482cf99b$0$20185$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>>>> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message ....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ....> Om, just took my dog to the eye specialist - he has cataracts
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> eye and
>>>>>>> beginning in the other - he's only 4 years old.
>>>>>>> so he is virtually blind in one eye - (not diabetic and he has a
>>>>>>> pedigree
>>>>>>> no cataracts in his family history) - so now I have to monitor his
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> eye and at some stage in the near future will have to consider an
>>>>>>> operation on one or both eyes. Cost will be $2000 for one eye and
>>>>>>> $3500
>>>>>>> for both eyes if I have it done at once, Plus all the pain and
>>>>>>> suffering
>>>>>>> for the poor little guy.
>>>>>>> Joys of owning a pet!
>>>>>> Sorry to hear about your dog. I've spent thousands on my dogs and
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>> hurt my bank acct at times, but the return is infinite. Hope your boy
>>>>>> gets
>>>>>> better soon.
>>>>> Appreciate that Zen. Funny how attached you get to these guys. As you
>>>>> say,
>>>>> spending the money is well rewarded. Thanks
>>>> If you lock your dog and your wife in the trunk of your car for an hour,
>>>> which one will be happy to see you when you let them out? :-)
>>> I think my wife - mainly because my dog would be dead. (my wife can't go
>>> an
>>> hour without eatng something) -
>>> (I am embarassed to admit but when I go away for a day or two on my own, I
>>> miss my dog far more than my wife !!)
>>>
>> That would be evident given that your wife has not gone away, is still
>> at home with the dog, and therefore has no reason to miss the dog more
>> than you do!!
>
> You are confusing me again!
David, it is all in the text, If you had said:
>>> (I am embarassed to admit but when I go away for a day or two on my
own, I miss my dog far more than *I miss* my wife !!)then it would be
more correct I assume. Charles was just being confusing but correct
> Where the fuck are ya these days??
>> Have a great weekend Oz - you know that I intend to! ;o)
>
> Yes - have my feet up with a glass of something most of the time - got
> slaves to mow the lawn and wash the car
>
>> TFIF!
>
> | 
05-17-2008, 02:09 PM
| | | Re: The Wisdom in Islam
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