__ Boner? - Researchers Turn Bone Stem Cells into Sperm Cells __

In article <8ng1335emthm92eb2n0hdv6g53odtvs65o@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 16:40:13 -0700, johac
> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>
> >In article <egp3239ho0fadgralhnfic57ukh3nd73s1@4ax.com>,
> > Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:28:58 -0700, johac
> >> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> - Refer: <jhachmann-F6D950.00285815042007@news.giganews.com>
> >> >In article <mn.72ca7d74fc5e2fba.73271@att.net>,
> >> > Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote on 4/14/2007 :
> >> >> > German researchers turn bone stem cells into primitive sperm cells
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > German researchers announced Friday that they have turned stem cells
> >> >> > taken
> >> >> > from human bone marrow into primitive sperm cells in a first step
> >> >> > towards
> >> >> > creating artificial sperm cells.
> >> >>
> >> >> Oh, great! As if we don't have neough people on this planet as is!!!
> >> >>
> >> >> Pang - contemplating Spaceship Earth and its diminishing resources...
> >> >> :-(
> >> >
> >> >I suppose it could be of help to men who due to injury or disease cannot
> >> >produce sperm normally. Of course whenever I hear of these expensive and
> >> >possibly risky new fertility methods I always ask myself: "There are
> >> >millions of children around the earth who have lost their parents or
> >> >abandoned and would love to have a family. Why not adopt?"
> >> >
> >> >Is it really that important to have our own genes in the next
> >> >generation?
> >> >
> >> >Also before we bring more people to this planet, shouldn't we give a
> >> >thought to those already here?
> >>
> >> Not with Catholics running the show in developing nations.
> >>
> >
> >I wish that these pro-life anti-contraception people would one day
> >realize that they are causing far more many deaths by starvation and
> >disease that they claim to 'save'.
>
> They don't care-unless they personally are in the 'cross-hairs.'
> Mindless platitudes are their manna.

Yes, but yet they can't help sticking their dogma in places where it
doesn't belong.
--
John #1782

"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."

- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.

In article <dlg13391vugf5erl8bgmi9muscec5m3vld@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:28:58 -0700, johac
> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>
> >In article <mn.72ca7d74fc5e2fba.73271@att.net>,
> > Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
> >
> >> _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote on 4/14/2007 :
> >> > German researchers turn bone stem cells into primitive sperm cells
> >>
> >>
> >> > German researchers announced Friday that they have turned stem cells
> >> > taken
> >> > from human bone marrow into primitive sperm cells in a first step
> >> > towards
> >> > creating artificial sperm cells.
> >>
> >> Oh, great! As if we don't have neough people on this planet as is!!!
> >>
> >> Pang - contemplating Spaceship Earth and its diminishing resources...
> >> :-(
> >
> >I suppose it could be of help to men who due to injury or disease cannot
> >produce sperm normally. Of course whenever I hear of these expensive and
> >possibly risky new fertility methods I always ask myself: "There are
> >millions of children around the earth who have lost their parents or
> >abandoned and would love to have a family. Why not adopt?"
>
> Good question.
>
> >Is it really that important to have our own genes in the next
> >generation?
>
> It can be a fixation.
>
> >Also before we bring more people to this planet, shouldn't we give a
> >thought to those already here?
>
> No says the USSC.

The five RCC member of the USSC. Two hand picked by Bush because of
their anti-choice views.
--
John #1782

"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."

- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:04:45 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism

>In article <8ng1335emthm92eb2n0hdv6g53odtvs65o@4ax.com>,
> stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 16:40:13 -0700, johac
>> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>>
>> >In article <egp3239ho0fadgralhnfic57ukh3nd73s1@4ax.com>,
>> > Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:28:58 -0700, johac
>> >> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> >> - Refer: <jhachmann-F6D950.00285815042007@news.giganews.com>
>> >> >In article <mn.72ca7d74fc5e2fba.73271@att.net>,
>> >> > Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote on 4/14/2007 :
>> >> >> > German researchers turn bone stem cells into primitive sperm cells
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > German researchers announced Friday that they have turned stem cells
>> >> >> > taken
>> >> >> > from human bone marrow into primitive sperm cells in a first step
>> >> >> > towards
>> >> >> > creating artificial sperm cells.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Oh, great! As if we don't have neough people on this planet as is!!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Pang - contemplating Spaceship Earth and its diminishing resources...
>> >> >> :-(
>> >> >
>> >> >I suppose it could be of help to men who due to injury or disease cannot
>> >> >produce sperm normally. Of course whenever I hear of these expensive and
>> >> >possibly risky new fertility methods I always ask myself: "There are
>> >> >millions of children around the earth who have lost their parents or
>> >> >abandoned and would love to have a family. Why not adopt?"
>> >> >
>> >> >Is it really that important to have our own genes in the next
>> >> >generation?
>> >> >
>> >> >Also before we bring more people to this planet, shouldn't we give a
>> >> >thought to those already here?
>> >>
>> >> Not with Catholics running the show in developing nations.
>> >>
>> >
>> >I wish that these pro-life anti-contraception people would one day
>> >realize that they are causing far more many deaths by starvation and
>> >disease that they claim to 'save'.
>>
>> They don't care-unless they personally are in the 'cross-hairs.'
>> Mindless platitudes are their manna.
>
>Yes, but yet they can't help sticking their dogma in places where it
>doesn't belong.

Oh, they can its simply refusal to refrain.


--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.

—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:06:27 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism

>In article <dlg13391vugf5erl8bgmi9muscec5m3vld@4ax.com>,
> stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:28:58 -0700, johac
>> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>>
>> >In article <mn.72ca7d74fc5e2fba.73271@att.net>,
>> > Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote on 4/14/2007 :
>> >> > German researchers turn bone stem cells into primitive sperm cells
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > German researchers announced Friday that they have turned stem cells
>> >> > taken
>> >> > from human bone marrow into primitive sperm cells in a first step
>> >> > towards
>> >> > creating artificial sperm cells.
>> >>
>> >> Oh, great! As if we don't have neough people on this planet as is!!!
>> >>
>> >> Pang - contemplating Spaceship Earth and its diminishing resources...
>> >> :-(
>> >
>> >I suppose it could be of help to men who due to injury or disease cannot
>> >produce sperm normally. Of course whenever I hear of these expensive and
>> >possibly risky new fertility methods I always ask myself: "There are
>> >millions of children around the earth who have lost their parents or
>> >abandoned and would love to have a family. Why not adopt?"
>>
>> Good question.
>>
>> >Is it really that important to have our own genes in the next
>> >generation?
>>
>> It can be a fixation.
>>
>> >Also before we bring more people to this planet, shouldn't we give a
>> >thought to those already here?
>>
>> No says the USSC.
>
>The five RCC member of the USSC. Two hand picked by Bush because of
>their anti-choice views.

Hey! Someone's gotta be enslaved or Christians are very unhappy.


--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.

—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary

In article <s3hp339jv84pcbgkpsocdtlnh2ctggb6jf@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:06:27 -0700, johac
> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>
> >In article <dlg13391vugf5erl8bgmi9muscec5m3vld@4ax.com>,
> > stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:28:58 -0700, johac
> >> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
> >>
> >> >In article <mn.72ca7d74fc5e2fba.73271@att.net>,
> >> > Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote on 4/14/2007 :
> >> >> > German researchers turn bone stem cells into primitive sperm cells
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > German researchers announced Friday that they have turned stem cells
> >> >> > taken
> >> >> > from human bone marrow into primitive sperm cells in a first step
> >> >> > towards
> >> >> > creating artificial sperm cells.
> >> >>
> >> >> Oh, great! As if we don't have neough people on this planet as is!!!
> >> >>
> >> >> Pang - contemplating Spaceship Earth and its diminishing resources...
> >> >> :-(
> >> >
> >> >I suppose it could be of help to men who due to injury or disease cannot
> >> >produce sperm normally. Of course whenever I hear of these expensive and
> >> >possibly risky new fertility methods I always ask myself: "There are
> >> >millions of children around the earth who have lost their parents or
> >> >abandoned and would love to have a family. Why not adopt?"
> >>
> >> Good question.
> >>
> >> >Is it really that important to have our own genes in the next
> >> >generation?
> >>
> >> It can be a fixation.
> >>
> >> >Also before we bring more people to this planet, shouldn't we give a
> >> >thought to those already here?
> >>
> >> No says the USSC.
> >
> >The five RCC member of the USSC. Two hand picked by Bush because of
> >their anti-choice views.
>
> Hey! Someone's gotta be enslaved or Christians are very unhappy.

Bush opposes abortion since he needs more cannon fodder for the Imperial
armies.
--
John #1782

"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."

- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.

In article <42hp33hj94o1mvcuiclidlmg3t6uh4hlum@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:04:45 -0700, johac
> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>
> >In article <8ng1335emthm92eb2n0hdv6g53odtvs65o@4ax.com>,
> > stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 16:40:13 -0700, johac
> >> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
> >>
> >> >In article <egp3239ho0fadgralhnfic57ukh3nd73s1@4ax.com>,
> >> > Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:28:58 -0700, johac
> >> >> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> >> - Refer: <jhachmann-F6D950.00285815042007@news.giganews.com>
> >> >> >In article <mn.72ca7d74fc5e2fba.73271@att.net>,
> >> >> > Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote on 4/14/2007 :
> >> >> >> > German researchers turn bone stem cells into primitive sperm cells
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > German researchers announced Friday that they have turned stem
> >> >> >> > cells
> >> >> >> > taken
> >> >> >> > from human bone marrow into primitive sperm cells in a first step
> >> >> >> > towards
> >> >> >> > creating artificial sperm cells.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Oh, great! As if we don't have neough people on this planet as
> >> >> >> is!!!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Pang - contemplating Spaceship Earth and its diminishing
> >> >> >> resources...
> >> >> >> :-(
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I suppose it could be of help to men who due to injury or disease
> >> >> >cannot
> >> >> >produce sperm normally. Of course whenever I hear of these expensive
> >> >> >and
> >> >> >possibly risky new fertility methods I always ask myself: "There are
> >> >> >millions of children around the earth who have lost their parents or
> >> >> >abandoned and would love to have a family. Why not adopt?"
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Is it really that important to have our own genes in the next
> >> >> >generation?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Also before we bring more people to this planet, shouldn't we give a
> >> >> >thought to those already here?
> >> >>
> >> >> Not with Catholics running the show in developing nations.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >I wish that these pro-life anti-contraception people would one day
> >> >realize that they are causing far more many deaths by starvation and
> >> >disease that they claim to 'save'.
> >>
> >> They don't care-unless they personally are in the 'cross-hairs.'
> >> Mindless platitudes are their manna.
> >
> >Yes, but yet they can't help sticking their dogma in places where it
> >doesn't belong.
>
> Oh, they can its simply refusal to refrain.

And that too.
--
John #1782

"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."

- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.

On Sun, 06 May 2007 21:56:13 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism

>In article <s3hp339jv84pcbgkpsocdtlnh2ctggb6jf@4ax.com>,
> stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:06:27 -0700, johac
>> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>>
>> >In article <dlg13391vugf5erl8bgmi9muscec5m3vld@4ax.com>,
>> > stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:28:58 -0700, johac
>> >> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>> >>
>> >> >In article <mn.72ca7d74fc5e2fba.73271@att.net>,
>> >> > Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote on 4/14/2007 :
>> >> >> > German researchers turn bone stem cells into primitive sperm cells
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > German researchers announced Friday that they have turned stem cells
>> >> >> > taken
>> >> >> > from human bone marrow into primitive sperm cells in a first step
>> >> >> > towards
>> >> >> > creating artificial sperm cells.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Oh, great! As if we don't have neough people on this planet as is!!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Pang - contemplating Spaceship Earth and its diminishing resources...
>> >> >> :-(
>> >> >
>> >> >I suppose it could be of help to men who due to injury or disease cannot
>> >> >produce sperm normally. Of course whenever I hear of these expensive and
>> >> >possibly risky new fertility methods I always ask myself: "There are
>> >> >millions of children around the earth who have lost their parents or
>> >> >abandoned and would love to have a family. Why not adopt?"
>> >>
>> >> Good question.
>> >>
>> >> >Is it really that important to have our own genes in the next
>> >> >generation?
>> >>
>> >> It can be a fixation.
>> >>
>> >> >Also before we bring more people to this planet, shouldn't we give a
>> >> >thought to those already here?
>> >>
>> >> No says the USSC.
>> >
>> >The five RCC member of the USSC. Two hand picked by Bush because of
>> >their anti-choice views.
>>
>> Hey! Someone's gotta be enslaved or Christians are very unhappy.
>
>Bush opposes abortion since he needs more cannon fodder for the Imperial
>armies.

Which he can't provide equipment for or intelligent direction.


--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.

—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary

On Fri, 11 May 2007 09:06:57 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 06 May 2007 21:56:13 -0700, johac
><jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism

>>Bush opposes abortion since he needs more cannon fodder for the Imperial
>>armies.
>
>Which he can't provide equipment for or intelligent direction.

And, if Congress has any balls, will be unfunded after July.

In article <s35943lmmulsj3lslsgiabbqcbk2fu5jug@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 06 May 2007 21:56:13 -0700, johac
> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>
> >In article <s3hp339jv84pcbgkpsocdtlnh2ctggb6jf@4ax.com>,
> > stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:06:27 -0700, johac
> >> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
> >>
> >> >In article <dlg13391vugf5erl8bgmi9muscec5m3vld@4ax.com>,
> >> > stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:28:58 -0700, johac
> >> >> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
> >> >>
> >> >> >In article <mn.72ca7d74fc5e2fba.73271@att.net>,
> >> >> > Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote on 4/14/2007 :
> >> >> >> > German researchers turn bone stem cells into primitive sperm cells
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > German researchers announced Friday that they have turned stem
> >> >> >> > cells
> >> >> >> > taken
> >> >> >> > from human bone marrow into primitive sperm cells in a first step
> >> >> >> > towards
> >> >> >> > creating artificial sperm cells.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Oh, great! As if we don't have neough people on this planet as
> >> >> >> is!!!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Pang - contemplating Spaceship Earth and its diminishing
> >> >> >> resources...
> >> >> >> :-(
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I suppose it could be of help to men who due to injury or disease
> >> >> >cannot
> >> >> >produce sperm normally. Of course whenever I hear of these expensive
> >> >> >and
> >> >> >possibly risky new fertility methods I always ask myself: "There are
> >> >> >millions of children around the earth who have lost their parents or
> >> >> >abandoned and would love to have a family. Why not adopt?"
> >> >>
> >> >> Good question.
> >> >>
> >> >> >Is it really that important to have our own genes in the next
> >> >> >generation?
> >> >>
> >> >> It can be a fixation.
> >> >>
> >> >> >Also before we bring more people to this planet, shouldn't we give a
> >> >> >thought to those already here?
> >> >>
> >> >> No says the USSC.
> >> >
> >> >The five RCC member of the USSC. Two hand picked by Bush because of
> >> >their anti-choice views.
> >>
> >> Hey! Someone's gotta be enslaved or Christians are very unhappy.
> >
> >Bush opposes abortion since he needs more cannon fodder for the Imperial
> >armies.
>
> Which he can't provide equipment for or intelligent direction.

Doesn't matter. He can still play 'Commander Guy' on the carrier and
make a lot of money for his contractor buddies
--
John #1782

"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."

- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.

In article <0f7a439s9gnhfj8hn4lgiasbjd92v1mf6g@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

> On Fri, 11 May 2007 09:06:57 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 06 May 2007 21:56:13 -0700, johac
> ><jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>
> >>Bush opposes abortion since he needs more cannon fodder for the Imperial
> >>armies.
> >
> >Which he can't provide equipment for or intelligent direction.
>
> And, if Congress has any balls, will be unfunded after July.

If, if, only if...
--
John #1782

"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."

- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.

On Sat, 12 May 2007 00:57:35 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-D6780A.00573512052007@news.giganews.com>
>In article <s35943lmmulsj3lslsgiabbqcbk2fu5jug@4ax.com>,
> stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 06 May 2007 21:56:13 -0700, johac
>> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>>
>> >In article <s3hp339jv84pcbgkpsocdtlnh2ctggb6jf@4ax.com>,
>> > stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:06:27 -0700, johac
>> >> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>> >>
>> >> >In article <dlg13391vugf5erl8bgmi9muscec5m3vld@4ax.com>,
>> >> > stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:28:58 -0700, johac
>> >> >> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >In article <mn.72ca7d74fc5e2fba.73271@att.net>,
>> >> >> > Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote on 4/14/2007 :
>> >> >> >> > German researchers turn bone stem cells into primitive sperm cells
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > German researchers announced Friday that they have turned stem
>> >> >> >> > cells
>> >> >> >> > taken
>> >> >> >> > from human bone marrow into primitive sperm cells in a first step
>> >> >> >> > towards
>> >> >> >> > creating artificial sperm cells.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Oh, great! As if we don't have neough people on this planet as
>> >> >> >> is!!!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Pang - contemplating Spaceship Earth and its diminishing
>> >> >> >> resources...
>> >> >> >> :-(
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >I suppose it could be of help to men who due to injury or disease
>> >> >> >cannot
>> >> >> >produce sperm normally. Of course whenever I hear of these expensive
>> >> >> >and
>> >> >> >possibly risky new fertility methods I always ask myself: "There are
>> >> >> >millions of children around the earth who have lost their parents or
>> >> >> >abandoned and would love to have a family. Why not adopt?"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Good question.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Is it really that important to have our own genes in the next
>> >> >> >generation?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It can be a fixation.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Also before we bring more people to this planet, shouldn't we give a
>> >> >> >thought to those already here?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> No says the USSC.
>> >> >
>> >> >The five RCC member of the USSC. Two hand picked by Bush because of
>> >> >their anti-choice views.
>> >>
>> >> Hey! Someone's gotta be enslaved or Christians are very unhappy.
>> >
>> >Bush opposes abortion since he needs more cannon fodder for the Imperial
>> >armies.
>>
>> Which he can't provide equipment for or intelligent direction.
>
>Doesn't matter. He can still play 'Commander Guy' on the carrier and
>make a lot of money for his contractor buddies

For that is what the entire show is "about".
Well spotted.

--

On Sat, 12 May 2007 00:57:35 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Doesn't matter. He can still play 'Commander Guy' on the carrier and
>make a lot of money for his contractor buddies

A lot of which, I'm pretty certain, ends up in his own pocket.

In article <ao1b43pebd2id6j8focg7gdd6c559aaubs@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 12 May 2007 00:57:35 -0700, johac
> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> - Refer: <jhachmann-D6780A.00573512052007@news.giganews.com>
> >In article <s35943lmmulsj3lslsgiabbqcbk2fu5jug@4ax.com>,
> > stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 06 May 2007 21:56:13 -0700, johac
> >> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
> >>
> >> >In article <s3hp339jv84pcbgkpsocdtlnh2ctggb6jf@4ax.com>,
> >> > stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:06:27 -0700, johac
> >> >> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
> >> >>
> >> >> >In article <dlg13391vugf5erl8bgmi9muscec5m3vld@4ax.com>,
> >> >> > stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:28:58 -0700, johac
> >> >> >> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >In article <mn.72ca7d74fc5e2fba.73271@att.net>,
> >> >> >> > Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote on 4/14/2007 :
> >> >> >> >> > German researchers turn bone stem cells into primitive sperm
> >> >> >> >> > cells
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > German researchers announced Friday that they have turned stem
> >> >> >> >> > cells
> >> >> >> >> > taken
> >> >> >> >> > from human bone marrow into primitive sperm cells in a first
> >> >> >> >> > step
> >> >> >> >> > towards
> >> >> >> >> > creating artificial sperm cells.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Oh, great! As if we don't have neough people on this planet as
> >> >> >> >> is!!!
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Pang - contemplating Spaceship Earth and its diminishing
> >> >> >> >> resources...
> >> >> >> >> :-(
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >I suppose it could be of help to men who due to injury or disease
> >> >> >> >cannot
> >> >> >> >produce sperm normally. Of course whenever I hear of these
> >> >> >> >expensive
> >> >> >> >and
> >> >> >> >possibly risky new fertility methods I always ask myself: "There
> >> >> >> >are
> >> >> >> >millions of children around the earth who have lost their parents
> >> >> >> >or
> >> >> >> >abandoned and would love to have a family. Why not adopt?"
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Good question.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >Is it really that important to have our own genes in the next
> >> >> >> >generation?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It can be a fixation.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >Also before we bring more people to this planet, shouldn't we give
> >> >> >> >a
> >> >> >> >thought to those already here?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> No says the USSC.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >The five RCC member of the USSC. Two hand picked by Bush because of
> >> >> >their anti-choice views.
> >> >>
> >> >> Hey! Someone's gotta be enslaved or Christians are very unhappy.
> >> >
> >> >Bush opposes abortion since he needs more cannon fodder for the Imperial
> >> >armies.
> >>
> >> Which he can't provide equipment for or intelligent direction.
> >
> >Doesn't matter. He can still play 'Commander Guy' on the carrier and
> >make a lot of money for his contractor buddies
>
> For that is what the entire show is "about".
> Well spotted.
>

Speaking about aircraft carriers, did you see where 'Commander Guy
No.2', aka Dick Cheney, aka "Shooter", aka "The Evil Dick" gave a speech
warning Iran yesterday from the deck of one of the aircraft carriers in
the Persian Gulf yesterday?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl.../12/MNG5BPPPPT
1.DTL

And here I thought 'gunboat diplomacy' was dead. The bloody show goes on.
> --
--
John #1782

"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."

- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.

On Sat, 12 May 2007 22:22:29 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-4B4E78.22222912052007@news.giganews.com>
>In article <ao1b43pebd2id6j8focg7gdd6c559aaubs@4ax.com>,
> Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 12 May 2007 00:57:35 -0700, johac
>> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> - Refer: <jhachmann-D6780A.00573512052007@news.giganews.com>
>> >In article <s35943lmmulsj3lslsgiabbqcbk2fu5jug@4ax.com>,
>> > stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 06 May 2007 21:56:13 -0700, johac
>> >> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>> >>
>> >> >In article <s3hp339jv84pcbgkpsocdtlnh2ctggb6jf@4ax.com>,
>> >> > stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:06:27 -0700, johac
>> >> >> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >In article <dlg13391vugf5erl8bgmi9muscec5m3vld@4ax.com>,
>> >> >> > stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:28:58 -0700, johac
>> >> >> >> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >In article <mn.72ca7d74fc5e2fba.73271@att.net>,
>> >> >> >> > Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote on 4/14/2007 :
>> >> >> >> >> > German researchers turn bone stem cells into primitive sperm
>> >> >> >> >> > cells
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > German researchers announced Friday that they have turned stem
>> >> >> >> >> > cells
>> >> >> >> >> > taken
>> >> >> >> >> > from human bone marrow into primitive sperm cells in a first
>> >> >> >> >> > step
>> >> >> >> >> > towards
>> >> >> >> >> > creating artificial sperm cells.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Oh, great! As if we don't have neough people on this planet as
>> >> >> >> >> is!!!
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Pang - contemplating Spaceship Earth and its diminishing
>> >> >> >> >> resources...
>> >> >> >> >> :-(
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >I suppose it could be of help to men who due to injury or disease
>> >> >> >> >cannot
>> >> >> >> >produce sperm normally. Of course whenever I hear of these
>> >> >> >> >expensive
>> >> >> >> >and
>> >> >> >> >possibly risky new fertility methods I always ask myself: "There
>> >> >> >> >are
>> >> >> >> >millions of children around the earth who have lost their parents
>> >> >> >> >or
>> >> >> >> >abandoned and would love to have a family. Why not adopt?"
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Good question.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >Is it really that important to have our own genes in the next
>> >> >> >> >generation?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> It can be a fixation.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >Also before we bring more people to this planet, shouldn't we give
>> >> >> >> >a
>> >> >> >> >thought to those already here?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> No says the USSC.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >The five RCC member of the USSC. Two hand picked by Bush because of
>> >> >> >their anti-choice views.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hey! Someone's gotta be enslaved or Christians are very unhappy.
>> >> >
>> >> >Bush opposes abortion since he needs more cannon fodder for the Imperial
>> >> >armies.
>> >>
>> >> Which he can't provide equipment for or intelligent direction.
>> >
>> >Doesn't matter. He can still play 'Commander Guy' on the carrier and
>> >make a lot of money for his contractor buddies
>>
>> For that is what the entire show is "about".
>> Well spotted.
>>
>
>Speaking about aircraft carriers, did you see where 'Commander Guy
>No.2', aka Dick Cheney, aka "Shooter", aka "The Evil Dick" gave a speech
>warning Iran yesterday from the deck of one of the aircraft carriers in
>the Persian Gulf yesterday?

No.


>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl.../12/MNG5BPPPPT
>1.DTL
>
>And here I thought 'gunboat diplomacy' was dead. The bloody show goes on.

It is all in that handy-dandy manual that was written for the Neocons
by George Orwell, with the serial # 1984.
They are following it to the letter.
If you wish to predict the future of Yankee politics and the destiny
of the great unwashed in Merka, read the end of it.

Serously.

--

On Sun, 13 May 2007 01:20:03 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <6v7d43p1qosq1v6iq5pbrmhuf5mnrnqg5q@4ax.com>
>On Sat, 12 May 2007 00:57:35 -0700, johac
><jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>Doesn't matter. He can still play 'Commander Guy' on the carrier and
>>make a lot of money for his contractor buddies
>
>A lot of which, I'm pretty certain, ends up in his own pocket.

NO!
Please tell me that Mr. Bush is honest, and not greedy for power.

--

On Sun, 13 May 2007 16:04:53 +0930, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 13 May 2007 01:20:03 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
>wrote:
> - Refer: <6v7d43p1qosq1v6iq5pbrmhuf5mnrnqg5q@4ax.com>
>>On Sat, 12 May 2007 00:57:35 -0700, johac
>><jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Doesn't matter. He can still play 'Commander Guy' on the carrier and
>>>make a lot of money for his contractor buddies
>>
>>A lot of which, I'm pretty certain, ends up in his own pocket.
>
>NO!
>Please tell me that Mr. Bush is honest, and not greedy for power.

Why would you be asking me to lie, Michael?

In article <m5cd431aj2vdhfqqn2eag4t8gp91cbpq79@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 12 May 2007 22:22:29 -0700, johac
> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> - Refer: <jhachmann-4B4E78.22222912052007@news.giganews.com>
> >In article <ao1b43pebd2id6j8focg7gdd6c559aaubs@4ax.com>,
> > Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 12 May 2007 00:57:35 -0700, johac
> >> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >> - Refer: <jhachmann-D6780A.00573512052007@news.giganews.com>
> >> >In article <s35943lmmulsj3lslsgiabbqcbk2fu5jug@4ax.com>,
> >> > stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, 06 May 2007 21:56:13 -0700, johac
> >> >> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
> >> >>
> >> >> >In article <s3hp339jv84pcbgkpsocdtlnh2ctggb6jf@4ax.com>,
> >> >> > stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:06:27 -0700, johac
> >> >> >> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >In article <dlg13391vugf5erl8bgmi9muscec5m3vld@4ax.com>,
> >> >> >> > stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:28:58 -0700, johac
> >> >> >> >> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >In article <mn.72ca7d74fc5e2fba.73271@att.net>,
> >> >> >> >> > Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote on 4/14/2007 :
> >> >> >> >> >> > German researchers turn bone stem cells into primitive sperm
> >> >> >> >> >> > cells
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > German researchers announced Friday that they have turned
> >> >> >> >> >> > stem
> >> >> >> >> >> > cells
> >> >> >> >> >> > taken
> >> >> >> >> >> > from human bone marrow into primitive sperm cells in a first
> >> >> >> >> >> > step
> >> >> >> >> >> > towards
> >> >> >> >> >> > creating artificial sperm cells.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Oh, great! As if we don't have neough people on this planet
> >> >> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >> >> >> is!!!
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Pang - contemplating Spaceship Earth and its diminishing
> >> >> >> >> >> resources...
> >> >> >> >> >> :-(
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >I suppose it could be of help to men who due to injury or
> >> >> >> >> >disease
> >> >> >> >> >cannot
> >> >> >> >> >produce sperm normally. Of course whenever I hear of these
> >> >> >> >> >expensive
> >> >> >> >> >and
> >> >> >> >> >possibly risky new fertility methods I always ask myself: "There
> >> >> >> >> >are
> >> >> >> >> >millions of children around the earth who have lost their
> >> >> >> >> >parents
> >> >> >> >> >or
> >> >> >> >> >abandoned and would love to have a family. Why not adopt?"
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Good question.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >Is it really that important to have our own genes in the next
> >> >> >> >> >generation?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> It can be a fixation.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >Also before we bring more people to this planet, shouldn't we
> >> >> >> >> >give
> >> >> >> >> >a
> >> >> >> >> >thought to those already here?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> No says the USSC.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >The five RCC member of the USSC. Two hand picked by Bush because of
> >> >> >> >their anti-choice views.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hey! Someone's gotta be enslaved or Christians are very unhappy.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Bush opposes abortion since he needs more cannon fodder for the
> >> >> >Imperial
> >> >> >armies.
> >> >>
> >> >> Which he can't provide equipment for or intelligent direction.
> >> >
> >> >Doesn't matter. He can still play 'Commander Guy' on the carrier and
> >> >make a lot of money for his contractor buddies
> >>
> >> For that is what the entire show is "about".
> >> Well spotted.
> >>
> >
> >Speaking about aircraft carriers, did you see where 'Commander Guy
> >No.2', aka Dick Cheney, aka "Shooter", aka "The Evil Dick" gave a speech
> >warning Iran yesterday from the deck of one of the aircraft carriers in
> >the Persian Gulf yesterday?
>
> No.
>
>
> >http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl.../12/MNG5BPPPPT
> >1.DTL
> >
> >And here I thought 'gunboat diplomacy' was dead. The bloody show goes on.
>
> It is all in that handy-dandy manual that was written for the Neocons
> by George Orwell, with the serial # 1984.
> They are following it to the letter.
> If you wish to predict the future of Yankee politics and the destiny
> of the great unwashed in Merka, read the end of it.

Well, I don't love 'Big Brother' yet. I need to reread that book. To be
forewarned is to be forearmed.
>
> Serously.
>
> --
--
John #1782

"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."

- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.

On Sun, 13 May 2007 16:57:13 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <isue431rahqc487kskr9q5qvp6ehb12rsj@4ax.com>
>On Sun, 13 May 2007 16:04:53 +0930, Michael Gray
><mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 13 May 2007 01:20:03 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
>>wrote:
>> - Refer: <6v7d43p1qosq1v6iq5pbrmhuf5mnrnqg5q@4ax.com>
>>>On Sat, 12 May 2007 00:57:35 -0700, johac
>>><jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Doesn't matter. He can still play 'Commander Guy' on the carrier and
>>>>make a lot of money for his contractor buddies
>>>
>>>A lot of which, I'm pretty certain, ends up in his own pocket.
>>
>>NO!
>>Please tell me that Mr. Bush is honest, and not greedy for power.
>
>Why would you be asking me to lie, Michael?

It appears to be the peferred fashion these days.

--

On Mon, 14 May 2007 11:57:12 +0930, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 13 May 2007 16:57:13 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
>wrote:
> - Refer: <isue431rahqc487kskr9q5qvp6ehb12rsj@4ax.com>
>>On Sun, 13 May 2007 16:04:53 +0930, Michael Gray
>><mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 13 May 2007 01:20:03 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
>>>wrote:
>>> - Refer: <6v7d43p1qosq1v6iq5pbrmhuf5mnrnqg5q@4ax.com>
>>>>On Sat, 12 May 2007 00:57:35 -0700, johac
>>>><jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Doesn't matter. He can still play 'Commander Guy' on the carrier and
>>>>>make a lot of money for his contractor buddies
>>>>
>>>>A lot of which, I'm pretty certain, ends up in his own pocket.
>>>
>>>NO!
>>>Please tell me that Mr. Bush is honest, and not greedy for power.
>>
>>Why would you be asking me to lie, Michael?
>
>It appears to be the peferred fashion these days.

I've never been a slave to fashion.

In article <6v7d43p1qosq1v6iq5pbrmhuf5mnrnqg5q@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

> On Sat, 12 May 2007 00:57:35 -0700, johac
> <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >Doesn't matter. He can still play 'Commander Guy' on the carrier and
> >make a lot of money for his contractor buddies
>
> A lot of which, I'm pretty certain, ends up in his own pocket.

And I'm sure in Uncle Dick's and in all their cronies pockets.
--
John #1782

"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."

- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.

On Sun, 13 May 2007 23:39:33 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <memf43hkju7uvo0ahpq7so82a4pm6meve4@4ax.com>
>On Mon, 14 May 2007 11:57:12 +0930, Michael Gray
><mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 13 May 2007 16:57:13 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
>>wrote:
>> - Refer: <isue431rahqc487kskr9q5qvp6ehb12rsj@4ax.com>
>>>On Sun, 13 May 2007 16:04:53 +0930, Michael Gray
>>><mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 13 May 2007 01:20:03 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
>>>>wrote:
>>>> - Refer: <6v7d43p1qosq1v6iq5pbrmhuf5mnrnqg5q@4ax.com>
>>>>>On Sat, 12 May 2007 00:57:35 -0700, johac
>>>>><jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Doesn't matter. He can still play 'Commander Guy' on the carrier and
>>>>>>make a lot of money for his contractor buddies
>>>>>
>>>>>A lot of which, I'm pretty certain, ends up in his own pocket.
>>>>
>>>>NO!
>>>>Please tell me that Mr. Bush is honest, and not greedy for power.
>>>
>>>Why would you be asking me to lie, Michael?
>>
>>It appears to be the peferred fashion these days.
>
>I've never been a slave to fashion.

I have never been a slave to wages.

--

On Fri, 11 May 2007 21:53:56 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism

>On Fri, 11 May 2007 09:06:57 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 06 May 2007 21:56:13 -0700, johac
>><jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>
>>>Bush opposes abortion since he needs more cannon fodder for the Imperial
>>>armies.
>>
>>Which he can't provide equipment for or intelligent direction.
>
>And, if Congress has any balls, will be unfunded after July.

Politician=balless wonder


--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.

—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary

On Sun, 13 May 2007 16:03:38 +0930, Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

>On Sat, 12 May 2007 22:22:29 -0700, johac
><jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> - Refer: <jhachmann-4B4E78.22222912052007@news.giganews.com>
>>In article <ao1b43pebd2id6j8focg7gdd6c559aaubs@4ax.com>,
>> Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

[]

>>> >> >Bush opposes abortion since he needs more cannon fodder for the Imperial
>>> >> >armies.
>>> >>
>>> >> Which he can't provide equipment for or intelligent direction.
>>> >
>>> >Doesn't matter. He can still play 'Commander Guy' on the carrier and
>>> >make a lot of money for his contractor buddies
>>>
>>> For that is what the entire show is "about".
>>> Well spotted.
>>>
>>
>>Speaking about aircraft carriers, did you see where 'Commander Guy
>>No.2', aka Dick Cheney, aka "Shooter", aka "The Evil Dick" gave a speech
>>warning Iran yesterday from the deck of one of the aircraft carriers in
>>the Persian Gulf yesterday?
>
>No.
>
>
>>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl.../12/MNG5BPPPPT
>>1.DTL
>>
>>And here I thought 'gunboat diplomacy' was dead. The bloody show goes on.
>
>It is all in that handy-dandy manual that was written for the Neocons
>by George Orwell, with the serial # 1984.

Tangently, yes. In the main, "IBM & the Holocaust" by Conrad Black.

>They are following it to the letter.
>If you wish to predict the future of Yankee politics and the destiny
>of the great unwashed in Merka, read the end of it.
>
>Serously.




--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.

—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary

On Sun, 20 May 2007 07:23:57 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
- Refer: <2fm0535pk5u2j2b954uo78197rjp49imsd@4ax.com>
>On Fri, 11 May 2007 21:53:56 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
>in alt.atheism
>
>>On Fri, 11 May 2007 09:06:57 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 06 May 2007 21:56:13 -0700, johac
>>><jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
>>
>>>>Bush opposes abortion since he needs more cannon fodder for the Imperial
>>>>armies.
>>>
>>>Which he can't provide equipment for or intelligent direction.
>>
>>And, if Congress has any balls, will be unfunded after July.
>
>Politician=balless wonder

Except for Hillary.

--